Tapes from the Darkside Presents: NIGHT TERRORS (full episode)

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0:53 All of that's available at Patreon dot com slash Tapes from the Dark Side without further ado. This is Night Terror number ten. Stalker, why did you text them sixty five thousand times? Because it made me find out all my information? Are you a crazy person? No? Tell us? Who are you like? I'm the person that discovered love. There's a quote that is often misattributed to ask Wild. It goes something like everything in the world is about sex, except sex. Sex is about power. Have you ever wondered how much sex the average American has?

1:43 Well? In twenty twenty one, the Center for Researching and Understanding Sexual Health surveyed over six hundred people, and they found that seventy percent of adults are having sex at least once per month. And what is the most common way to meet people? In this day and age? For better or worse, we have surrendered much of our courtship to the digital realm. At least in the developed world, Three in ten US adults say they've used a dating app or website. The top place to find a date, according to survey respondents, was a dating app, followed then by a friend, and then further down a concert or a festival.

2:24 Dating apps are here, and they appear to be here to stay, at least for the foreseeable future. The subject of today's story, Jacqueline, eighties, turned to dating apps to find a partner. Jacqueline didn't use one of the more popular dating apps Tender or Okay, Cupid or Bumble. She used a rather niche app, one called Luxy. Luxy brands itself as an elite and millionaire dating site. Join luxy dating for free and meet rich, successful and attractive millionaires in this upscale community. Jacqueline was clearly searching for an aristocrat type, but it appears she herself wasn't exactly destitute.

3:09 She was thirty one years old, and although we don't know much about her personal life, she appears to be a fairly regular middle class person. She actually did score a one time date with a big wig ceo. In an interview after her arrest, Jacqueline refers to him as Isaac Ben Shabbat, CEO of a company called Secret, which appears to specialize in making skin cream. This particular case is tough to pin down exact details, because, as anyone who's ever seriously researched a news story will quickly find out, news science often get things wrong. We'll touch on that more in a bit. According to the public record and to Isaac, the two only went on one date. According to other sources they were much more familiar than that, But for now we'll stick with a public record, which essentially tells us that that one date was apparently all that Luxey was good for. By the end of it, two conclusions had been reached. Jacqueline had concluded that Isaac was indeed her soulmate, which is not something that anyone really wants to hear after a first date, but okay.

4:21 According to a study done by Forbes Health, which pulled five thousand US respondents three and ten, found the best time to tell a partner that you love them was around four to six months, not exactly the one date benchmark that Jacqueline had chose. Isaac, on the other hand, had determined that their relationship had concluded, and he stated in no uncertain terms that he would not be seeing Jacqueline again. As it turns out, they were both wrong. Now, Isaac was decidedly not Jacqueline's soulmate, but Jacqueline was far from exiting Isaac's life. She would be back for her soulmate simply because, in her mind, fate demanded it. Here's where the events of our story gets a little bit foggy.

5:10 It was initially stated by news outlets all over the US that Jacqueline had sent Isaac in excess of sixty five thousand text messages over ten months, which sounds absolutely insane because it is. But later news sites began reporting that it was more like one hundred and sixty thousand text messages over ten months, which is still insane. To break that down, that's something like five hundred text messages a day. To put that another way, it's about one text every three minutes, every single day for ten months. Is that number correct? Honestly, how can that number be correct?

5:51 That's an unfathomable level of tenacity. But when you hear Jacqueline speak, which we will in a few moments, you begin to think maybe it's true. Jacqueline's reasoning for the excessive texting was that she loved Isaac. But as it happens, of the messages that we've seen, Jacqueline wasn't exactly filling Isaac's phone with sentiments of puppy love. Rather, they're full of threats, and not the normal I'm gonna slash your tires or something of that sort. What Jacqueline sent was some seriously frightening stuff. How much do you value your heart? Yes, you're beating heart. How much do you value your skin?

6:38 I ask only because a few of Jacqueline's threats included the following one threatening to remove the skin from Isaac's fascia two to remove his fasia from his muscles, three to remove all his fat and vital organs. Four to remove his entire circulatory system. Five to wear his fascia, six to wear his skull like a hat, seven to wear his hands, eight to wear his feet, nine to cut out his heart, ten to bathe in his blood, eleven to turn his kidneys into sushi and use his finger bones as chopsticks in twelve to have him taxidermied.

7:23 I think you get the point. These were not run of the mill threats. They were the ravings of someone who is deeply psychotic. You know you're dealing with a special kind of disturbed individual when their promises of bathing in your blood are the least bizarre of their desires. Stalkers, murderers, violent psychopaths. These aren't the only people who can have violent urges. Most people can understand, or at least comprehend, doing something that we might consider gruesome. By and large, we possess an ambition, and therefore don't act on these urges. Take time to think things through, consider the consequences, and come to our senses. But the capacity for brutality lives within each and every one of us. We can feign total bewilderment and violent news stories all we like, but some part of us can at least sometimes empathize with the allure of giving in to a violent outburst. There is hardly ever a positive outcome when we act on rage, but it is an emotion that most people can understand, and this is what makes jacqueline story so bewildering. It's not her desire to kill the subject of her unrequited love, or even her desire to kill him violently. That's a tale as old as time. Happens every day, barely remarkable given the sheer prevalence of unspeakable horror taking place at any given point in human history. The unique aspect of this case is jacqueline seemingly total lack of rage. She

8:57 doesn't come across as angry, her demeanor almost gentle as she promises to commit unspeakable horrors. Her text messages make her seem almost giddy, following up murderous intentions with excessive uses of lol and emojis. Were befuddled even further by how she wanted to kill Isaac. It's the smallest details that elevate this story from simply macabre to downray shocking. The sheer anatomical competence of this woman promising to remove the skin from a fascia, promising to remove the entire circulatory system, Jeffrey Dahmer himself would have grinned in appreciation humor me for one moment, because the removal of someone's circulatory system is truly a standout. If you're familiar with human anatomy so much that it crosses the line from horrific to almost comical, Removing someone's entire circulatory system would not only be complicated, but nearly impossible. Your circulatory system is far more complex than something like the wires behind a an old fashioned television set. It's not even close to something like assembling and disassembling a computer. It's more complex than most of us are even capable of comprehending, containing capillaries, blood vessels, veins, and arteries. The average human has around ten billion capillaries in their body. That's billion.

10:27 With a b. Intrusive thoughts, call of the void, imp of the perverse. These unwanted images and scenarios have several names, but much like rage, there's something of a universal human experience, and much like rage, if we're introspective and honest, enough, they're also something of a universal human experience. Equally universal is the innate knowledge that it's better to keep such thoughts to yourself or at least perhaps your close friends or your therapist, and if those thoughts become intense or frequent enough, it might be time to seek serious help. But such as the paradox of mental illness, those with the most severe mental illnesses are usually convinced that not only are they perfectly healthy, they have gained some kind of insight into themselves or the universe that has elevated them above the normal human being, and that to seek help is not only unnecessary, but it would rip them down from the clouds on which they currently rest to the realm of mortals. And when you hear Jacqueline speak as you will soon, it's hard not to wonder if this is the case with her. As details vary from one publication to the next, the exact timeline and full story of what happened between Jacqueline eighties and Isaac is foggy, to say the least. What we do know is that she was found in Isaac's apartment taking a bath when Isaac,

12:00 who was out of the country at the time, saw her on a security footage and called the police. Upon arrival, police founders still in the bathtub, reportedly also discovering a large butcher knife in her car. The butcher knife aspect is one that she refuted, claiming instead that it was a pocket knife that she carried everywhere for protection. Nevertheless, you cannot bathe in stranger's bathtubs without the permission, and a person who you've been on one date with is essentially that a stranger. For this infraction, Jacqueline eighties was arrested for a criminal trespass and given a court date. She failed to appear, so a bench warrant was issued.

12:40 She continued furthermore to contact and threaten Isaac, showing up again at his home, then later at his place of employment, claiming to be his wife. She was immediately escorted from the property and once again arrested, this time due to her prior failure to appear and having made comments via text about moving back to Florida to dodge the conviction. She was denied bail and sat in an Arizona jail for the better part of a year. The story became something of a national phenomenon when reporters were granted an interview with Jacqueline. It was this interview that truly paints the picture of how mentally unstable this woman was in coherent ramblings about numerology, particularly the number thirty three. But why sit here and describe it when we can listen for ourselves.

13:35 Hi, guys, I'm Jackie. You want to ask me questions? All right? Go ahead, start from the beginning. How did you wind up here? I wound up here on a road trip from Florida looking for I guess love. And I was following the number thirty three. I used to wake up every day and every night at three thirty three. I was always three thirty three three three three three. So I kept. Following the number. And I said, why why am I following the number thirty three? And I spoke to psychic and she told me. She told me I have the same birth chart as Jesus. So then I said, okay, I look up Jesus. He was thirty three when he came to be. So I was like, that's a thirty three.

14:25 My left eye axis is thirty three. The location I came from in Miami was thirty three one eleven. The zip code this zip code here now this ZiT the coordinates on the map, It's thirty three one eleven. Jacqueline, How did you come to meet the man who is related to your case? Oh, Isaac ben Schabba. I met him online. I was looking for my healing angel. The the psychic I meant told me I would meet a healing angel. So I I was in Utah Mount Zion looking for my healing angel, and I.

15:06 Hm. I was at a bar and I was talking to the bartender about the number three, and I said, so the number three. I told him the story how I got here, just cause I got here the number three. And then he. Said not to say anything, but look behind me. And I looked behind him and there's the giant number three. So I was like, are you my healing angel? And he was like, no, I'm not. And then I said, okay, well, maybe you're gonna lead me to my healing angel. So he said, you should probably go to Sedona's in Arizona, and I said, I never heard of it, and I look up Sadona, Arizona.

15:47 It's a thirty third most spiritual place. So I canceled my trip. I canceled my trip in Mount Zion and I decide to go to Arizona. I never been here, and. Isaac texted me and he says, have you ever been to Arizona? And I was like, this is really weird. I just decided to come here, and I said. I'm not gonna meet him. Almost God throws it in my face. So we start talking and I was like, I'm not gonna go there. Then he told me he has my same birthday. So I was like, Okay, I have. To go meet him cause I told God that's what I would do. So I go meet him and we have the same birthday. Our brothers are both named Jacob and David. Our fathers are both Egyptian Jews from Cairo.

16:36 We're both vegetarians. Then I find out he does stuff for the Dead Sea. That dead Sea has thirty three percent salt in it. Walt Disney's club is called Club thirty three. The reason that are called this is because the location of Atlantis is inside the earth. The coordinates are thirty three thirty three. It's the soul of the earth. Do I think can I get you to respond to some of the charges against you? Oh? Did you break into his home? MM? I'd rather not talk about those things? What about the text messages? I rather not talk about those.

17:16 You said you met him online? What site did you meet him on? Luxy? What kind of site is that? Oh? Like the most shallow one ever where the rich men meet the pretty girls? And what. You know? It's I I know you don't wanna talk about the texts, but in some of them you said some pretty crazy days. Would you wanna just respond to that part of it? Not? Right now? Why did you text him sixty five thousand times? Cause it made me find out all my information? Loving him selflessly brought this information because everybody just wants to take. But if you just give, and you don't stop giving, even if you don't receive, you all of a sudden receive a lot.

17:59 Did he'd tell you to stop contacting him? Ah? I don't wanna talk about that. Did you listen to that? I don't wanna talk about that. You said you did you go on one date with him? Three? Three dates? Can you talk about how you felt when you were with him? Did you feel like spark immediately? Talk about how you felt. I felt like I met my soulmate and everything was just the way it. Was, and I thought we would just do what everybody else did, and we would just like get married and everything would be fine. But that's not what happened. Sixty five thousand text messages, that's. Like, that's the level. Stuff to me seemed like more, seemed like more than. Sixty five though. To me, Yeah, that's it's that kind of excessive. Love is an excessive thing. Can you understand why people think this is a little bit out there?

18:40 Oh? Yeah? Can you? Are you a crazy person? No? Tell us, who are you like? What you like? I'm the person that discovered love. That equation to light. Einstein discovered the equation to light. It's E equals mc squared. To finish that equation, everything we see is made out of light. Everything and the composition of the light that it's made out of. Jackie, some of those messages don't sound like love. They sound like ruds. When you're finding love. Not everything is perfect. This was a journey, and I wanted to apologize because nobody would ever be more sorry.

19:20 Would you ever really hurt him? Oh? Hm? I love him. So the rest of the equation is L equals three point three L equals three point three times E equals mc squared and that's that's the equation of eternal love. Would he love you? It means one boy thing plus one girl thing one. The boy is the light. The light makes the love work really hard. The love. We're as women's supposed to worship the men, and they're supposed to lead us in where we're supposed to go, but instead we all believe. In the number zero. The number of zero is a belief system that the Illuminati created to create the undertaking of all human kind.

20:08 Shad w Why do you think it it was important to speak to. Us today. Cause they have to share? Hm share? What the message of love? What's your message of love? Everybody has to love each other. What do you want the vict if the victim's watching, and what do you want him to know? Right now? Victim? He's not a victim, okay? The person that that I love? Yes, what I want him to know that I love him? Are you gonna leave him alone? If he wants me too? Has he asked you to leave him alone? I don't wanna talk about those things.

20:49 Why did you go to his business on Friday and tell everybody there that you. Were his wife? I don't wanna talk about them, Okay? Can we ask why you don't. Wanna talk about some you have negative energy. I'm sorry, what are. You feeling right now? When you hear those questions, they're being negative to me, and I feel like everybody should just be nice. Well, we are trying to understand where you're coming from. It's not negative, you know, So that's why we wanna try to understand. On the dollar bill, it says she prefers your undertaking a new world order in Latin on the one dollar bill, and. The pyramid. Represents slavery and the third eyes the imagination, So everybody is a jew essentially, that's what the imagination is. And the pyramid is how we were enslaved. So we've been enslaved by money, and we enslave each other. It's like a self perpetuating cycle of enslaving each other and taking from each other and being selfish.

21:46 Teddy, So love makes you crazy? Thing? Now we've all heard that whatever make you capable of killing someone? No, do you think that some of these messages in your textbook during your text is negative energy? Mm? Oh yes, it's part of downloads of information. Alright. Some of the things you said homes I like begging him the energy. How you responded, I. I only wanna be nice. Why I only wanna be nice? I only wanna talk about nice things. If I said something bad, I apologize and I only wanna be nice. I want everybody else to be nice. I want all of you to be nice. I wanna be nice. Everybody in the jail should be nice. Nothing bad would ever happen to anybody if everybody's nice.

22:27 So this journey of love that you were taking, I guess this is the last place that you imagined that you lives up. No. No, if Isaac wants me to go to jail, I should be in jail. That's hard. I appreciate it. How Why would you accept that? Then? Because I love him and he should know better. He's the light, I'm the love. He knows what to do. I follow the worse. If you were released today, would you leave him alone? Yeah? If you ask me to him, then he has asked you to Okay, where'd your journey gonna hid you? Now? Though I had I could go back home and spread the message there. Worry about something like this happened in a den? No? No worried. What have the last twenty four hours been. Like for un and the air good.

23:09 I like everything, and everyone's isa nice to you. How do you know he's the meanest person I've ever met? And why do you like him? If he's done, we're soulmates. There's one boy and one girl. It's one boy thing, one girl thing, and it equals three point three instead of having the number zero, we're only supposed to count to three point three one two, three point three. Three point three is infinity. So if we counted from one boy thing to one girl thing, it would equal forever, like the universe in all the planets. Why do you say Isaac was mean? Oh cause he was. How I'm not gonna tell everybody about that. I'm not him, I'm the love I said, three days at his house?

23:56 So you stayed with him for three days? Yeah, well there's three days like for you. Just he was being weird to me, and I let it be because I knew I should just let it be. How weird? Why do you want me to tell you yeah, weird things about him? Why? Because we wanna understand you. Well, he put a GPS on my car. I think he put something on my phone so I couldn't use it. Why do you think he would do that for you. Because he felt the same about me. So you longed to keep that connection that him. He wasn't used to somebody that would just like stay there because they want to.

24:39 Did he ask you to leave when and when you were staying at his house? No, we just had a three day day and he left and I left. He told me I could stay at his villa in Mexico, but I didn't want to because I knew he would fill me on cameras and I didn't want to. So I thought maybe if I calmed him down over time, he would realize he doesn't have to stalk me. Mm. When did he start to not wanna talk to you anymore? Because he blocked you on WhatsApp? So you came to your zona and and then I'm just trying to understand what happened after that. I'm not sure. That's why I'm here. So you're not angry with him? No, Oh my god, No, I love him so much.

25:20 I just wanna love him so much, I said, And if he doesn't like it, then I'll go home and I'll love my ex boyfriend. What am I starts to do? Has he blocked you on anything else? No? He lets me text him and he reads all of it. Where's home for you? Mm? Sure you said you wanna go? Does it Ridge? Oh? I call home Miami just cause that's where I came from. Would you go back to my am? I don't. I mean, I w if he told me to go to Miami, I would. If he doesn't, I mean, if he's not gonna say, if he whatever he wants me to do. Should he be afraid of you? No? No? Did he ever warn you that he was gonna call the police if you didn't stop texting? No? See any of this seem kind of weird?

26:01 That alls in unisys from us no douse. In a lot of people's eyes, they see this as weird. That's because they're selfish and they've never actually loved someone without getting anything back. The point of love is to keep giving it. That's the math equation. It's love equals three point three, which is infinity times equalsms he squared, which is light. Light is forever l equals three. L If loved was a number, it would be three. So it's infinity times light, which is also infinity. So it's just forward, forever forward. And if you're selfish, you can't understand that because you want something in return, He's not giving me anything in return, And. I still love him anyway. That's what love is, That's what the universe is supposed to be made of.

26:47 When's the last time you talked to him? He sent me a text on a fake number before I went to his work. How do you feel about the fact that he got your rest. I think it's a good idea. I think it was a good idea. If he thought it was a good idea, that means it's a good idea. Do you think you're a danger? No? No, I wanted I think he wanted to make sure I wasn't or something like that. I don't know. I mean, and you know if you carried a knife with you? Why not? Yeah? Police report states that you had a butcher knife? What cause I never had a butcher knife? I had I had like little flippy knives on my way on my road trip. People try to hurt me. I'm a single girl. I drove across America. I don't carry a butcher knife.

27:33 No. How do you know if he's the one that texted you on the fake number? Just like I know he's the one that set you guys up here. What did he say in that text message? He said, Nolly, are you this is Carol? Are you coming to finish your prayer? And I was like, please, don't tell me that this is you sending me fake text messages because you want me to come over so you can go to police on me again. But I did it. I went there because I knew it was him. He said he was looking for a doctor and a prayer, and I said, nobody else would say that to me but him. So all thank you appreciated.

28:20 Up to this point, this particular episode has been something of an exercise in dark humor. And while this interview with Jacqueline may initially seem a bit funny for its kookiness or how completely off the brails her ranting goes, after a minute or two, all semblances of humor seem to be completely sucked out of it. This is what couldn't even be called an interview by any consurable human being. What this is is an exploit. Doctor Phil himself would surely shiver in excitement at the prospect of having this woman on a show. All violent and appalling threats aside, this interaction makes clear that prison is not the answer.

29:00 Jacquelindes more than anyone I've ever seen, or at least equally so, needs professional help and medication. As we reference before, you can hear in the interview that she's not someone who's full of rage, quite the opposite. She seems to have something of an authentic and sweet demeanor, though the fact that she refuses to discuss the death threats in any way, shape or form suggests that she's somewhat aware, at least deep down inside. How not okay, she is still her manner of speech in the numerous conspiracy theories she spouts that would impress even Alex Jones indicate that something is seriously awry in her brain. As I've said many times, we hear it tapes from the dark Side are not doctors or psychologists, but schizophrenia or bipolar disorder seems almost certain. This episode of Jacquelin eight's descent into madness started with a perfectly reasonable and respectable goes. She was looking for love, aren't we all? And even after we found some, wouldn't we like to find a little more?

30:08 With very few exceptions, people want to be loved. So while Jacqueline's decidedly excessive reaction to losing someone she believed was the love of her life is easy to laugh at or dismiss aspathetic, It's not an alien concept. This is not to say, or even lightly imply that what she did wasn't, for lack of a better word, psychotic. Her behavior was simply unacceptable. But we should remind ourselves that just about every one of us has been in a situation where partner or potential partner was making us crazy. Any love worth having, any love worth giving, begets something called passion, and sometimes the line between strong passion and full blown crazy is razor thin. In the end, Jacqueline was found incompetent to stand trial, the charges were dismissed.

31:01 She was moved to a mental hospital, where she spent some time before being released, and then moved back to Florida to live with her family. There are some reports that Jacqueline has since died, but the only real evidence of this is on an entry at grave dot com created by a user who has dozens upon dozens of other Gravesite profiles. There's no public obituary, and so her current status remains ambiguous. Also worth noting not because it holds a shred of validity, But because most of the things in the story are based on he said, she said hearsay is the fact that many people on online forums seem convinced that Jacqueline and Isaac were much more familiar with each other than Isaac claimed. Jacqueline herself stated it was three dates they went on, not one, but many people online stated that Isaac was playing some kind of cruel mind game with Jacqueline, which doesn't seem totally outlandish, but should be taken in with a full grain of salt, perhaps many grains of salt. The tragic truth behind this story and many such that we cover, is that we'll never know exactly why what happened between Jacqueline and Isaac happened.

32:14 The only certainty is that desperation and mental illness were hard at work on Jacquelindy's mind. There are two lessons we can learn here. One is that please, for your own sake and the safety of everyone around you, listen to your doctor when they tell you your mental illness needs to be treated with medication, and do not discontinue said medication without medical supervision. And the second lesson be careful in online dating and for that matter, any dating. Jacquelin Edes seems for all intents and purposes, to have been a stranger to Isaac, and while strangers certainly make the top of the short list. As far as our fears about the combination of to miscy and violence, we know statistically we're much more likely to be killed, her or abused by someone we know closely, a family member, a partner, a close friend. If someone treats you in a way that you don't like, it's okay to speak up.

33:20 It's okay to leave a relationship that is turned sour. Oftentimes this is much easier said than done, but there are resources out there, there are support networks available, and if you ever need someone to just talk with, we're here at the Dark Side for you. Tapes from the Dark Syde Pod at gmail dot com, at the Darkseyde Pod on Instagram. Thank you for listening today. The script was written by Josh Lammy and music by Augusta Trevororum. If you enjoyed this episode of night Terrors presented by Tapes from the Dark Side, we have nine more available just like it right now on Patreon and also Apple Plus.

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