Feb. 7, 2024

S11, Chapter 1: Bart and Krista Go Missing

A jailhouse phone call. An interesting phenomena...

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A jailhouse phone call.

An interesting phenomena in its own right. The prison industrial complex in the USA generates an estimated 1.3 billions per year. In March of 2020, when the Dane County Jail stopped all in-person visitations due to the rapid spread of the Covid-19 virus they implemented a policy in which every inmate was allotted two 15-minute phone calls per day.

No matter if it's free or charged, if you happen to be on either end of a jailhouse phone call you should be aware this is not a normal phone call.

That’s because there’s an inherent irony in this kind of call. Especially one that takes place pre-trial—like the one you hear at the beginning of this episode between Chandler Halderson and his girlfriend Catherine. And the irony is this.

You’re free to talk about nearly any subject you'd like—except for the one that you both would like most to discuss.

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Tapes from the Dark Side contains descriptions
of violence and sexuality. Listener discretion is

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advised. Please hold hello. This
is a free call from Chandler Holderson,

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an inmate from the Dane County Jail. To accept this free call, press

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zero to refuse this free call,
hang up or press one. This call

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is from a correction facility and is
subject to monitoring and recording. Thank you

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for using Global Telling. Hello,
Hey, hey, how are you?

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Yeah? How are you pretty good? It's really loud in your flow.

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Yeah. Yeah, we got some
new people. They're all out, you

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know. Oh yeah, Well,
I hope you're still their favorite. I'm

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sure you're the least problematic person.
Yep, that seems to be me.

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Oh my good boys, I think
I'm just boring. I don't think you're

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boring. I don't think you want
to do anything bad. Huh nice bus.

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Yeah. What what was that I
saw in my stet memories? Was

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two years ago today when we met
our first no man together, the one

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with the pumpkinhead. Oh cool,
that wasn't too big of it. It

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was pretty big, like go least
up to my tour though, So it's

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today, two years ago, two
years ago today. So we've first stargeting

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in twenty nineteen. Wow, the
one last year we made look pretty cool.

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Yeah, we made a little one
that sat on that planter box.

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M I think, yeah, I
remember that one with the pumpkin heads.

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Yeah, he made a little hat
work too. It fell off right away.

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I think the pumpkin melted. It
is still a little bit warm.

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Yeah, carrot nones. Yeah,
and miss those things me too. I'm

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so bored without you. It's it's
not very fun here either, bored all

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the time. But I've started drying
and I'm getting better at it. Yeah,

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those you have one minute remaining?
Do you know those memes that are

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like what she wants to hear and
it says like phrases. It was like,

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oh yeah, say phrase, I
put that on. Do a picture.

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I like just random saffy ship more
then some quotes that you and I

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used to use and ship like that. You know. Oh well, I

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hope you need all the staffy stuff. I like getting love letters. I

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do, okay, I love you? You love me? Yeah, you

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promise you doesn't love the lads will
talking to you? Pinky and who's something?

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Huh what was that? Because oh
no, okay, I promise,

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promise, okay, because I love
you too and I don't want to get

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playing. I'm a big baby.
Oh crash, So I pulled it up,

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all your clothes made, everything was
nice and the bucket we have for

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you of your stuff. Thank you
for using Global tell Link. A jail

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house phone call an interesting phenomena in
its own right. The prison industrial complex

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in the United States generates an estimated
one point three billion dollars a year in

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income from such phone calls. Yet, in March of twenty twenty, when

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the Dane County Jail stopped all in
person visitation due to the spread of the

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highly contagious COVID nineteen virus, they
implemented a policy in which every inmate was

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allotted to fifteen minute phone calls per
day. In addition to this, you

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could also pay for phone calls,
and the charges would vary based on the

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county the inmate was located in.
A fifteen minute call from Jefferson County runs

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about a dollar and eighty cents,
while a call in Polk County would cost

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you fourteen dollars in seventy seven cents, almost a dollar a minute, no

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matter if it was free or charged
it happened to be on the other end

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of a jail house phone call.
You should be aware that this is not

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a normal phone call. That's because
there's an inherent irony in these kinds of

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phone calls, like the one you
just heard between Chandler and his girlfriend Kat

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And the irony is this, You're
free to talk about any subject you like,

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except for the one that you most
want to discuss, the alleged crime.

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This topic of discussion can put your
case in a mediate jeopardy, and

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discussing any intimate details of your case
will be discouraged by nearly every defense attorney

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across the board. And that's because
all jail house phone calls are recorded and

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reviewed by jail staff, and if
any incriminating evidence happens to be discussed,

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it is then sent to the prosecutorial
team to be used against you. So

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while Catherine Mellinder was able to ask
her boyfriend Chandler how his day was,

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what he ate for breakfast, and
even their future plans together if he ever

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made it out of jail, she
couldn't ask him the one question that was

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most on her mind. Did he
kill and dismember his parents? In July

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of twenty twenty one, and if
he didn't, who did. I think

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everyone has a bit of a fascination
with the dark side. I myself will

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always loved the dark side as well. I think it's something that everyone secretly

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belongs for in movels, blood or
there's blood everywhere. It was kind of

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I felt kind of like he was
looking through me, kind of like a

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glassy look the dark side, the
dark Side, the Dark. July first,

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twenty twenty one. It was the
Thursday before a long Fourth of July

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weekend. Most families already had plans
to celebrate with friends, and soon to

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come would be a cacophony of backyard
barbecue, cookouts, fireworks. Fourth of

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July would technically lie on a Sunday, and so many people would enjoy Monday

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the fifth off, or maybe Friday
the second, and for a lucky few,

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maybe both, giving them a four
day extended weekend. It's on this

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stay July first, that twenty three
year old Chandler Halderson says is the last

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time he saw his parents barred in
Christa before they disappeared. Chandler, who

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went by the name Jazz to his
friends and family, had a full time

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job, working from home Monday through
Friday as a cybersecurity expert for an insurance

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company. He had a set schedule
to be up at six am every day.

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He'd let the family dogs outside to
do their business, and then he

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would prepare for work. And Friday, July second was exactly the same,

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except that this day, when he
got up at six am to let the

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dogs out and begin his work from
home routine, his parents were gone.

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But this wasn't exactly unusual. In
fact, Chandler had helped them pack the

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night before. They were going on
an impromptu weekend trip to their cabin,

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which was located in Langlake County,
about three hours north of Madison. A

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quick bit of geography. Madison is
located in the southern part of Wisconsin,

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not far from the Wisconsin River,
and in larger perspective, the town is

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only about an hour and twenty minutes
west from Milwaukee, which is seated right

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on the Great Lake Michigan. Christa
and bart Alderson said that they were going

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to be gone for the Fourth of
July holiday. They were taking Friday off

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and even when Chandler saw that both
their cars were still in the garage,

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just assume their friends had picked them
up. He didn't think anything was out

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of order. Chandler went on to
enjoy the holiday weekend with his girlfriend,

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Catherine, who goes by the nickname
Kat. It's the same young woman we

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heard in the opening phone call.
Chandler and Kat went to Kat's family's house.

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They swam in their pool, they
set off fireworks, they ate good

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food, and there really was no
reason for concern, except for one small

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detail. Christa was not one of
those people who had off from work Friday

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or Monday. She worked customer service
for a small autobody shop in Madison,

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and that shop only had a few
people who worked in the front office.

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No more than one person at a
time was allowed to take off, And

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because her coworker had requested Friday off
and her manager had requested Monday off,

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Christa was stuck with the short end
of the stick on this particular holiday.

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But this wasn't an issue for her. She would get her turn later in

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the year on another holiday, and
in fact, she had scheduled day long

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weekend trip for the end of July. Christa wasn't the type of person to

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miss an unscheduled day of work,
even if she was running late. She

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always called ahead to let her boss
know. That is until July second,

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when, for the first time in
her career, she no called, no

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showed. Did you know a person
by the name of Krista Halderson? Yes?

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I did. How did you know
Krista? Christa was my one of

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my direct reports. She was our
customer service representative. We had her under

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my employment for a little over two
years. Okay, could you just,

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very briefly, in a sentence or
two, tell me about what Christa was

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like at work. Christa was a
very kind, warm customer service representative.

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She had a genuine concern for all
of our customer on the phone and in

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person, treated everyone with empathy,
and I had many compliments from the general

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public. Anyone who dealt with her
went out of their way to tell me

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how great she was. Could you
please identify would exit it? Five forty

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one? Yes? This was all
of Christa's time off requests from January first

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of twenty twenty through December thirty first, twenty twenty one. Did kristaph Alderson

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request to be off on July side
of twenty twenty one, No, she

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did not. Did she show up
to work that day? No? She

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did not. Was that unusual,
missus Alderson extremely unusual. Christa was very

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conscientious and would text me, usually
a couple hours ahead of any start time

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to let me know she would be
late or not in that day. And

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did missus Halterson ask off for to
live fifth of twenty twenty one, No,

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she did not. I had that
day off, and we had that

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day off. Part of our process
in our front office is that only one

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of us can have a day off. We can't have two people taking the

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same days off. So Dan Kroninger
took Friday, July second off. I

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took Monday, July fifth off,
and that would exclude anyone else from taking

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time off in the front office.
Did Kristen show up for work if you

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know, on July fifth, twenty
twenty, No, she did not.

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It was my day off. I
was concerned that she hadn't shown up on

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the Friday before I went into work
to see if she had come to work

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and if anyone had heard from her, even though it was my day off.

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But again, no call, no
show that day, no call,

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no show. I texted her a
little before nine o'clock when it was apparent

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that she hadn't shown up that text
was never delivered. Let's also hear briefly

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from another of Christa's coworkers, a
man named Daniel Kroninger, who worked with

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her in the front office of Zimbrick's
body shop. How are you employed in

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July of twenty twenty one? At
that time, I was a body shop

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estimator at a Zimbrick body shop European. And is that the location on Stolton

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Road in Madisondan County, Wisconsin.
Yes. Did you know a coworker by

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the name of Krista Halderson? Yes, it did. Can you describe what

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was your relationship with Krista? She
was our customer service rep, so we

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worked together. I think I started
there in September of twenty nineteen. Okay.

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And did you become friends with Krista
Halderson? Yes it did. Did

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you ever go to our home?
Yes? Did you meet her husband?

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Yes? Okay. Did you find
out on July second of twenty twenty one

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that Krista No called and No showed
into work? Yes, that's correct.

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How did you find that out?
I had the day off from work,

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we were supposed to close on a
house, and I received a text from

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a couple coworkers asking if I had
heard from her? Had you heard from

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her? I had not. Did
she ever discuss with you in the last

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week of June? That first day
in July, any plans to go to

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our cabin? No? What did
you do in response to learning that Krista

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no called no showd Initially we were
just taking my girlfriend and I were taking

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care of some stuff around the house. I received a second text, I

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think around two thirty or so of
another coworker asking if I had heard from

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her. So around four thirty five, four forty or so, we drove

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over to their house to see if
I could get home. Old of anyone,

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what caused you to drive over to
her house? Just because it was

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weird for her to not show up
to work and I was living just a

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couple miles away at the time.
Okay, did you in fact did you

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in fact go to her house?
Yes? And just so we're clear,

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that's the house on O Springs Circle
in Windsor, Wisconsin. Correct. What

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did you do once you got there? Initially knocked on the door, no

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response, So I peered through the
front door window like the side light didn't

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really I saw what appeared to be
a table on its side. No response,

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and we went to the garage door, checked to see if the vehicles

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were there, which they were,
and then at that point Chandler came to

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the door. Okay, and did
you go into the house talk outside or

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something else? We talked outside of
the side garage door. So tell me

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about your conversation with Chandler. What
did he say when we arrived at a

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period he had just gotten out of
the shower. I confirmed with him that

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his parents were not there, and
then he had given us a story about

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how they had gone up north in
an emergency to the cabin and went with

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a couple that he was not sure
who they were. Just know that they're

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picked up early that day and would
be gone for a couple of days.

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Okay, did he tell you what
time his parents had left? I know

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he had said that it was probably
right. He had not been waken up

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yet, so it was something early
he heard them leaving. That's what he

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told me. Another than Chandler just
getting out of the shower. Was there

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anything else unusual about his appearance?
He had a bandage on his large toe.

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Not sure which side it was,
but he had a bandage on one

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of his toes. Did he say
anything about his foot? He said that

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he had broken the glass around the
fireplace while playing with the dogs. Okay,

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did he describe his injury at all? I just said there was blood

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everywhere. Dan, What was Chandler's
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missing parents at the time. He
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up north and everything seemed like it
was fine to him, was my understanding?

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No further questions, cross examination?
Certain response to that question about his

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demeanor, are you talking about are
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the home? Yes? Oh.
The only thing that seemed off at that

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time was when he said there was
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everywhere. It was kind of I
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me, kind of like a glassy
look. But other than that, everything

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seemed normal as far as how I
knew Chandler. We'll be right back after

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from the Dark Side Well. Christa spent

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her days working as a secretary.
Her husband, Bart, was a certified

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accountant and tax manager. Bart was
three years younger than Christa, being fifty

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years old Krista being fifty three.
Bart was also born in Wisconsin, just

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like his wife, but he was
from a town called Sheboygan, which,

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in addition to being extremely fun to
say, is located a couple hours drive

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east from where he would eventually settle
down to start a family in the town

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of Madison. That's where he met
Christa. She grew up in Madison and

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went to high school there. Both
her and Bart got their bachelor's degrees from

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the University of Wisconsin Madison, and
shortly after Bart obtained his degree, they

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were married. That was nineteen ninety
four, and by all accounts, they

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had a happy, fulfilling home life. They went on to have two dogs

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who they named Izzy and Rizzo.
They had a group of close friends.

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They like to go to college football
games and outdoor concerts. Bart was an

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avid golfer and was also immersed in
the world of home remodeling. He almost

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always had a project going on,
and when he disappeared there were multiple rooms

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in the house that were under construction. Just a personal note, my dad

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is a project manager and he grew
up as a carpenter and so All through

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my childhood, I remember there always
being something going on in the house,

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whether it was a remodel or an
additional room being built. Bart feels like

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the kind of guy who could be
my dad or your dad. He seemed

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to fit the archetype of the all
American dad. And if Bart was the

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American dad, Christa was undoubtedly the
American mom. She loved arts and crafts,

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she was always cooking a homemade meal, and she greatly enjoyed interior decorating.

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Bart and Christa appeared to be devoted
parents who worked extremely hard to give

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their two children every opportunity to succeed
in life. We already know they had

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one son named Chandler, who was
born in nineteen ninety eight and was twenty

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three years old when they went missing, but they also had another son born

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a year earlier, named Mitchell Alderson. The two brothers were separated by only

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eighteen months. Mitchell followed in his
parents' footsteps and attended and graduated from the

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University of Wisconsin Madison with a bachelor's
degree in statistics. He moved out,

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got a full time job and a
fiancee to boot Will later hear directly from

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Mitchell when he testifies in court in
the murder case against his brother. But

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for now, I want to play
for you the audio from another piece of

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courtroom testimony, and that's of Bart's
brother, Brett Halderson. Clean cut man

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who also has a clean shaven face, sharp jaw line. Brett appears to

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be in his mid fifties. Solemn
look on his face, no doubt appropriate

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given the context. Brett, your
last name is Halderson. Were you related

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to Bart and Krista Holderson? Yes? Bart is my brother. Were you

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the older brother, the younger brother. I am an older brother by about

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four years. So you knew Bart
his entire life. Yes, and you

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knew Chris Chandler and Mitchell as well. Yes. What was your relationship like

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with Bart, Krista and the kids. General, good relationship with them.

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We would have family get togethers at
holidays. We would talk over the phone

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occasionally, maybe send an occasional text
message back and forth. And how would

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you describe Bart and Christa as parents
towards Mitchell and Chandler. Well, they

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were good parents, very nurturing.
Christa was very involved with their children.

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I know it was mentioned like helicopter
mom, but she was very attuned to

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everything that they were into. There
was supportive and that anything they're involved in

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with school, with swimming, there
were lifeguards. They promoted those things.

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They got them through boy Scouts.
Boy Scouts was very big in our family

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and that followed through with them raising
their boys. Okay, how did you

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learn about your brother and his wife
being missing? I believe the information went

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to my aunt and uncle, was
referred over to my parents, and my

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parents gave me a call and Brett. Just to put this in some context,

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what did you do as a career, I worked as a police officer

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or deputy chief for the Minnational Police
Department. What did you do upon hearing

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that Bart and Christa are missing?
Initially, my first impression is statistically they

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probably were out of phone range.
Everything would be fine, and we would

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probably locate them or have communication with
them within the next couple hours. So

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at that time I believe I made
a phone call to them just to see

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if I could get a hold of
them, try to get things straight and

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out as soon as I could.
What is the next thing you decided to

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do after that in regards to them
being missing? After that, I believe

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just to get more information. I
made phone contact with Chandler just to see

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where they were expected to be,
what was going on with their life,

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where they were going, and I
guess the finalut of different avenues where we'd

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be able to make contact with them. And what did you learn from Chandler?

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He had mentioned that they were going
up north. I think the big

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piece of information that was valuable was
that they had left with an unknown person

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or couple. I think the mail
was believed to be a DAN and left

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in that person's vehicle, And with
that information, I prompted him to try

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to find out who this Dan might
be. I did even mention about finding

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if the neighbors across the street had
a ring camera that may have gotten that

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vehicle and the license plate that would
be able to help us identify the person.

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Did Chandler seem to take your advice
and was he able to answer your

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questions? Yes? Yes, As
a matter of fact, he had gone

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across the street. And then shortly
after speaking with mister Kevin Lindsmeyer, I

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received a phone call from Kevin Lindzmeyer
saying that he was over there and just

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wanted to make sure that I was
aware of everything that was going on.

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If you recall, Brett said that
he was a police officer, and coincidentally

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enough, Kevin lindsmere one of the
Halderson neighbors, was also a retired police

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detective of thirty one years. Kevin
had just retired that very year, and

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so he had plenty of time to
spare. Kevin lindsmere knew that something was

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wrong almost immediately when bart and Krista
went missing. Maybe it was that police

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instinct kicking in, and so when
Chandler came over to his house to see

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if the ring doorbell camera had recorded
anything suspicious, mister Lindsmuir decided to record

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the entire conversation with his phone,
which we have a copy of. We'll

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play a little of that later.
I think it's worth noting that if hypothetically

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someone had decided to target Barton Christa
for some kind of random act of violence

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or extortion, they managed to pick
perhaps one of the worst couples they could

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have in Madison, Wisconsin, a
target whose brother was a police officer and

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the immediate neighbor, a retired detective, was local to the area and suddenly

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had a lot of time on his
hands. But for now, Let's return

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to Bart's brother Brett. As we
spoke and I guess was prodding for more

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and more information, he did reveal
that there was health problems. I was

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aware of my brother having psoriasis and
some arthritis related to that. But he

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did bring up the information that Christa
had some type of cancer that he was

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recently made aware of, as well
as I believe the small stroke. And

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with that it opened up the aa
pssibility that they may have gone somewhere to

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receive treatment for that and maybe just
hadn't been giving that information to the family

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because they wanted to keep that personal. Okay, During the course of all

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these different discussions you're having with Chandler, at any point does he float the

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idea to you that perhaps throughout drinking
somewhere, I don't believe that ever came

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up. Now. Does he ever
explain to you that they took a bunch

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of tools and a large amount of
cash to the cabin. I believe he

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mentioned the tools in the cash as
far as going up to the cabin to

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do some repairs. Yes, did
he mention the possibility of a casino trip

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to you? He did not mention
anything about a casino and I'm not familiar

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with my brother Chris ever visiting casinos
for entertainment with your brother being a CPA,

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did it seem likely to you or
not he'd have a large amount of

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cash on hand and a safe in
his home. Knowing my brother, I've

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never known him to have a large
amount of cash on his person or in

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his home. He would have kept
that, I would believe more secure.

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Mister Halderson, When was the last
time you talked to your brother Art?

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It would have been the morning of
July first. Is there any reason you

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remember that date? Because that's my
birthday. Our family makes it a ritual

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of contacting each other on her birthdays. And that was a phone call that

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he had made to me that morning. Is that the last time you spoke

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to your brother? No further questions. A large amount of cash, recent

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cancer diagnosis, box of liquor tools, and a last minute casino trip.

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What do all of these seemingly disparate
things have in common, Well, they're

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all separate explanations given by Chandler Halderson
to explain his parents' sudden disappearance to some

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people. He told there was a
sudden issue at the cabin that his dad,

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Bart had to go take care of
immediately. Others he told there was

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a couple of friends who they went
with to go and gamble and party,

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and to other people he gave an
entirely different story about his mother having a

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recent cancer diagnosis, which does seem
to be true, and that the reason

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they went to the cabin was to
get away and try to process the sudden

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medical news, hence the box of
liquor they supposedly took with them. But

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which version of the story was the
truth, if any of it. No

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matter which story you pick, there's
one thing that didn't fit, a detail

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that we've already discussed, and that's
that Christa had no call and no showed

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for work on Friday July second.
Finally, on the day of the holiday

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Sunday, July fourth, there seemed
to emerge a ray of hope from the

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black cloud surrounding the situation. It
appeared that perhaps Chandler was right and there

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really was no reason to worry,
because Christa suddenly sent a text to her

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son Chandler, a message that would
become crucial to this investigation. I'll tell

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you exactly what that text said,
but let's first review the history of Chandler's

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text messages from his mother to him
from July second to the day she officially

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went missing to July seventh, Friday. In July second, no text messages

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were exchanged. Saturday, July third, at four forty seven pm, the

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first time Chandler texas Mom to check
on her, and Bart quote, hope

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this goes through. I bet there's
a lot of people up there making it

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hard to message. No reply that
day from Christa, and no further text

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from Chandler on that day. Sunday
in July fourth, at eleven o four

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am, the first time Christa text
Chandler or anyone since her disappearance. Quote

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made it safely, can't get anything
through, and yes it's packed, going

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to White Lake today for the parade
and we'll be home Monday night Tuesday early,

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love you lots. No text response
from Chandler on that day. Monday,

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July fifth, no text from Chandler, no text from Christa. The

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second day of Christa missing work without
calling. Tuesday July sixth, no text

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from Chandler, no text from Christa. The third consecutive day of Christa,

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no calling, no showing, and
finally, on Wednesday, July seventh,

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at twelve fifty two pm, Chandler
to his mother christa quote, Hey,

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I'm worried at the police station.
Can you text or call? Besides for

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this seeming lack of concern, Chandler's
shows for his parents in these texts,

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there was another glaring issue with their
exchange, specifically Christa's message, the one

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she sent on July fourth at eleven
am going to White Lake today for the

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parade. The White Lake Fourth of
July celebration was held on Saturday, July

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third. In fact, as far
as I could find on their website and

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Instagram pages, White Lake has always
celebrated the holiday on Saturday, which is

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something that if you spent summers at
a cabin in Langley County you'd simply know.

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Which leaves us with one question.
If Krista Halderson didn't send that text

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message, then who did. Coming
up on Tapes from the dark Side,

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Mitchell Holderson, Chandler's older brother,
decides to get to the bottom of the

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whole situation. We are out with
the Halverson son and his fiance and we'll

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be taking a walk around the property
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Crime Network and Court TV who filmed
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to every single person who listens.
I truly appreciate you taking the time to

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tune into the show. Without you, I would just be a crazy person

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sitting in a room by myself,
rambling away till all hours of the night.

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Thank you for being here. If
you have any questions or comments,

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you can always get in touch with
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at gmail dot com, and until
next time, try to enjoy the daylight.

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Thank you for using Global Telling.
Hello, Hey, how are you?

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I'm then a pretty good man speaker
for me. Yeah, I can pick

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you off speaker. Yeah, where
are you talking? Or what are you

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doing? I'm fishing right now,
but I really got a piece. I'm

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like walking in circles and it's a
little easier when I don't have to fold

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the phone right here. Yeah,
absolutely, Well how's your day going?

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It's good? You know you couls
some fancy something teat very cheap. Mhm,

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miss you? I miss you too, Missy Moore? Got it?

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Hm? I do I get another
three five minutes tomorrow? Okay, when

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do you want to call? I
mean we waited the entire week to call

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this time, so we could wait
till the middle of the week. Okay,

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like a Wednesday, Yeah, Wednesday, Thursday either works the best part

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of the week. Christmas. Mhm, so I got for the week?

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You got? What do you have
plans for the week? Danny's saying with

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us while he's in mad of him
m hm. Oh, he's kind of

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like helping unload the house. We
moved almost everything from our old house yesterday.

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Okay, got like a lot of
furniture moved. So it's just little

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stuff left that can be moved in
cars. Oh, why see home or

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not ab again? Something happened?
No abigails in school? I remember?

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Oh, okay, Danny isn't and
he saved up a lot of money during

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the pandemic while working. Oh so
he's on vacation, sells grandma all right.

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Yeah, so he's just staying with
us while he visits friend because you

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know, we're like a clean home. Madison. Yeah, I missed you.

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Yeah, I'd like to go fishing
with you too right now? Yeah,

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nice weather for it, wearing shorts
and aletter that's good weather. H

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Yeah, it sucks a missing fall. That's my favorite season. M h.

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We'll be out in times of spring
hopefully too. I don't like spring,

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though, Well, let's the fuck
because we want you out by spring.

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It's a really nice dam in Stelton
Stoughton. M Yeah, okay,

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it's we're Danny's from. You knows. I have a little watering holes around

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here. I just know tiny little
ponds for this small game, all right.

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Nice. Oh my god, there's
geese like a goose, but they're

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like fully white. Oh fancy.
Yeah, it's like a farm raised goose.

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Mm hmm. But it's like running
around wild. That's strange. It

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is. They're like walking on a
line. That's odd. You have one

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minute remaining? Was that all right? When you're uh, it says be

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a woman at left. But when
you're out. I think we should go

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fishing and have coffee and make lunch
and then have a whole day of just

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outside fishing. And we could wear
our hats and sunglasses, and I can

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bring sun screen because you burn quick, my little tortilla. I love you.

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I love you more. Mhm tonight, iteing your voice too, keep

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talking? Okay, sleep well,
wrap yourself like a burrito in a blanket.

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It's very nice. It should start
getting colder. It's getting pretty chilly

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outside. Like I can't really walk
around that much anymore because it's getting cold.

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I wear pants like all the time. I just wear Okay, the

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amount of times I've worn your sweater
in tants to bed is kind of getting

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growth. Thank you for using global
tailing the looks of a dark side?

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What dorg sat dark sat it get
the hell out of my house. In

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Jesus' name, I'll pray