July 13, 2023

The Horrifying Murder of Alzada Pauline Young | FEATURED EPISODE

The Horrifying Murder of Alzada Pauline Young | FEATURED EPISODE
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The Horrifying Murder of Alzada Pauline Young | FEATURED EPISODE

"It is undoubtedly the most hideous and dastardly crime I have ever known," the medical examiner, Dr. Weisman, said, as he left the autopsy room. Sheriff Ludwick agreed. "[It’s] the worst thing that’s happened in Knox County while I’ve been here.”...

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"It is undoubtedly the most hideous and dastardly crime I have ever known," the medical examiner, Dr. Weisman, said, as he left the autopsy room. Sheriff Ludwick agreed. "[It’s] the worst thing that’s happened in Knox County while I’ve been here.”

Leaves crunched under his shoes and the sun’s last rays pried their way into his squinted eyes as John walked down Crescent Street. He had an errand to run. John and Albert lived on the same street—merely its name changed as you crossed Main Street.

John knocked on his neighbor’s door. He had gotten fed up with his stepdaughter’s long absences. It had been a week since he’d seen Pauline. Albert came to the door and John asked for her. “It’s time to come home, Pauline.” She was just 16 years old, but had a mind of her own, and John was growing impatient with her.

She obliged and they walked home, their backs to the setting sun. It was Halloween night and John wanted his family together.When they arrived home, around 5:30PM, John asked his daughter, Rachel, who was 11, to call his wife at work, and let her know that Pauline was back. Rachel got her on the line and Thelma asked her to keep Pauline at home until she could get there at 7:00PM. Then the kids—Rachel and her younger brother, Bernard—went out trick-or-treating, leaving Pauline and John alone.

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for you is al Zeta Pauline Young, and it's about a father who murders

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his stepdaughter and then disposes of the
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that are graphic in nature and also describes

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attempted suicide. If this is a
trigger for you, please listen with care.

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It is un doubtedly the most hideous
and dastardly crime I have ever known,

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the medical examiner, doctor Weisman said
as he left the autopsy room.

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Sheriff Ludwick agreed, it's the worst
thing That's happened in Knox County while I've

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been here. Leaves crunched under his
shoes, and the sun's last rays pried

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their way into his squinted eyes.
As John walked down Crescent Street, he

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had an errand to run. John
and Albert lived on the same street,

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merely its name changed. As he
crossed Main Street, John knocked on his

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neighbor's door. He had gotten fed
up with his stepdaughter's long absences. It

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had been a week since he'd seen
Pauline. Albert came to the door,

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and John asked for her. It's
time to come home. Pauline, she

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was just sixteen years old, but
had a mind of her own and John

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was growing impatient with her. She
obliged and they walked home, their backs

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to the setting sun. It was
hallow Queen Knight. When they arrived home

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around five thirty pm, John asked
his daughter Rachel, who was eleven,

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to call his wife at work and
let her know that Pauline was back.

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Rachel got her on the line,
and Thelma asked to keep Pauline at home

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until she could get there at seven
pm. Then the kids, Rachel and

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her younger brother Bernard, went out
trick or treating, leaving Pauline and John

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alone. John, in his authoritarian
way, said that her days of staying

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overnight away from the house were over
and that her wings were getting clipped.

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She was livid. She said that
she was going back to Albert's, saying

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to hell with supper, to hell
with you, and to hell with mother.

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John locked all the doors, daring
her to try and leave. Pauline

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grabbed a knife from the kitchen and
came at John. He grabbed the closest

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weapon, a hammer, and threw
it at her, hitting her in the

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forehead and rendering her instantly unconscious.
She crumpled to the floor face down.

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John rolled her over, checked her
Pulls, checked her breathing and discovered that

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he had killed his wife's daughter with
a single blow. He panicked, who

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would believe that a husky stoneworker like
him could have felt threatened by a sixteen

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year old girl? Who would believe
that he acted in self defense? He

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had to think fast. He picked
up her body and moved it downstairs in

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the cellar as a temporary measure.
He cleaned up the kitchen from their struggle.

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He'd figure out what to do with
a body later. When Thelma got

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home from work at seven pm,
John told her that Pauline could not be

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reined in. He recounted her angry
tirade and said that she refused to stay

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at their home any longer, that
she was running off to get married.

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He said that she left, probably
to Albert's, and Thelma accepted her daughter's

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decision, saying if she felt that
way, perhaps it was for the best.

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Children had gotten back home from playing
in the neighborhood. They had supper

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together, and then Thelma and the
kids went to a Halloween party, leaving

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John alone with his thoughts. It
was a Thursday evening, and John knew

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that the following day his wife would
be at work. Had Rockland's Almshouse,

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a town subsidized home for the poor, and the children would be at the

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elementary school on Purchase Street, he
would have more time to work without interruption

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than Thelma, Rachel, and Bernard
went to bed that night, but John

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couldn't sleep, knowing what he had
done and what gruesome task awaited him tomorrow.

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When he shut the door to his
home after ushering his children off to

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school, he breathed a sigh of
relief. His family hadn't discovered his secret.

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But what now. John lived in
a duplex at twenty eight Crescent Street,

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right in the heart of Rockland,
Maine. He couldn't just carry a

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body to the ocean. He had
neighbors in foot traffic on all sides,

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so he improvised. He gathered up
some sharp tools and went to work dissecting

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Pauline's sixteen year old frame into pieces
that would fit into burlap bags. Using

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an axe and a kitchen knife,
he cleaved her body into six parts,

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placing each in its respective container.
He buried some of them under his porch,

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which he cleverly accessed through a basement
window. He worked in the shallow

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crawl space beneath the porch deck,
which was concealed by a wooden trellis,

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dug a trench and buried two of
the bags there. He covered them with

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dirt and placed two wooden planks on
top to conceal the disturbed soil. He

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had four to go. There was
some cover in the back yard, where

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there were some outbuildings. At first, he considered working within the buildings,

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but the shed was chalk full of
coal and the hen house had a wooden

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floor. But there were a few
feet between the shed and the hen house

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where he wouldn't be too exposed to
nosy neighbors. He grabbed his shovel and

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went to work. When he finished, he made three trips inside, bringing

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one sack per trip, and deposited
them into the earth. He covered the

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soil and then asked a couple of
neighbors to move his children's playhouse into the

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tight spot and conceal the turned soil. The final sack would have to wait

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for the cover of darkness. His
family returned home from their routine daily schedule,

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and he tried to maintain normalcy,
but he felt nervous and wild.

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After they went to bed, John
picked up the final sack and walked to

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the salty shore of Rockland Harbor.
He picked up a heavy rock and stowed

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it in the bag next to Pauline's
head. He cinched the bag shut,

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bound it with rope, and walked
it to the end of the pier by

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Rackliffe and with on lobster company.
With his considerable strength, he hurled the

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bag into the harbor and collapsed.
What had he done? On Tuesday,

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November fifth, five days after he'd
killed Pauline, John went to the police

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and reported her missing. He had
a part to play the concerned father.

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The chief of police remembered Thelma telling
him to have Pauline picked up if he

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found her on the street. Little
did John know neighbors were growing suspicious.

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His neighbors, Marian Allen and her
boarders Rule and Ruby, were only separated

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from John's family by a thin wall, and Marian had been home all Halloween

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night. She remembered hearing a woman's
scream four times and then a heavy fall,

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after which all was quiet except the
radio. She then heard Thelma return

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from work and say to John three
times, I can't daddy. Thelma was

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accustomed to calling her husband daddy,
after all he was twenty one years her

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senior, she being thirty three and
he being fifty four. What terrible thing

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had John asked his wife to do? And Marian heard John pacing all night,

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walking up and down the stairs.
She could feel the heat radiating from

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the walls. He had built two
heavy fires, one in the kitchen range

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and another in the parlor stove.
She was suspicious of the purpose of those

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fires. The next day, Marian
was home again and thought John was acting

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wild. She saw him carefully studying
every car that approached the vicinity. She

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remembered him busily washing clothes and cleaning, paying particular attention to the floor,

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and she watched John prepare a fire
in his driveway, which, in addition

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to the ordinary wood and refuse,
he also burned some clothes. Rule Marian's

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border saw John carrying bags between the
hen house and the duplex, and he

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heard him working in the cellar.
And aside from the direct observations, Albert

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Wilson, at whose home Pauline had
been staying, was incredulous of the story

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that he'd been told that Pauline had
run off to get married. He started

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asking about her around town, alerting
others to her disappearance. Alice Rich from

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nearby State Street, happened to drop
by the Phelps home and John asked her

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if she quote noticed an awful smell. She took note of this strange question.

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Stories were circulating around the Phelps home, and on Thursday, a week

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after the killing, Marian decided to
act. She went to the sheriff of

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Knox County, Earl Ludwick, and
told him everything she knew. The sheriff

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recalled Marian coming into his office and
opening up about her fears that something terrible

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had befallen Pauline. She became so
unglued during her telling that he fetched a

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doctor to treat her. Moved by
her impassioned to plea, Earl called up

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the county district attorney and asked him
to hold the grand jury, which had

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been convened that week, for another
couple of day days. He thought this

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might be an open and shut case. He figured if he could present evidence

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to a jury in the next day
or two, he might just have an

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indictment within days. The wheels of
justice moved a lot faster. In nineteen

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forty, the sheriff, a deputy
sheriff, and a main state police Lieutenant

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Leon Shepherd all went to the Phelps
home that evening to look into the matter.

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John was home and answered the door. Earl recalled that he was very

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calm and invited them to search wherever
they liked. Following the tip from Marion,

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they made an especially careful search of
the two stoves, but Leon believed

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that neither would have been large enough
to dispose of a one hundred and thirty

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pound body. They went to the
cellar and John invited them to use the

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short handled shovel that was laying against
the foundation wall to dig around. He

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fetched them a pickaxe that was out
in the shed. They used the tools

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to poke around for a bit,
but their thorough search revealed nothing unusual.

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John said simply that she had gathered
her clothing and run away on the night

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of Halloween. After further routine questioning, the officers left. That might have

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been the end of the story of
Pauline if it hadn't have been for what

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happened on Saturday morning. It was
the early morning hours of Saturday, November

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ninth. The temperatures had dropped in
the twenties, and what little moisture was

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left had been wrenched out in the
still air Fogg had settled in. Overnight.

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Rockland patrolman Ronald Sukaforth was doing his
rounds on the cobblestone streets and dirt

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roads when he came across a middle
aged man covered with blood. His left

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wrist was slashed with a razor.
He was wandering dazedly near the police station

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on Union Street. The officer took
him straight to Knox County Hospital, where

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doctor Weissman took over his care.
The man said that he had taken five

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poisonous tablets mercury by chloride, and
that when those failed to work, he

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tried to take his own life by
cutting his left wrist. He also told

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the doctor that there was an important
note in one of his pockets, a

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truth he wished to tell. Doctor
Wiseman searched his pockets and discovered a slip

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of paper scrawled with a handful of
simple words that revealed that the man before

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him, John Phelps, had killed
his step daughter. He immediately notified the

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sheriff of his discovery. The sheriff, the Knox County District Attorney, and

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police Chief Arthur Fish were all roused
around three thirty a m. Saturday morning,

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and made it to the hospital.
Shortly after four a m. Doctor

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Wiseman had sent word that his patient
was in poor shape and there was no

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telling how long he might survive.
They rushed to the hospital. John told

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the three of them what he'd done. That he had killed Pauline with a

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hammer, divided her body into parts, stashed them into gunnysacks, and buried

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them. He even told them where
he had hurled the last one into the

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harbor. The men summoned additional help
and made their way to the Phelps home

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on twenty eight Crescent Street, where
they arrived just before sunrise. First,

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they removed the lattice work from below
the front porch and shimmied into the crawl

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space below the wooden deck. They
found the boards that John had used to

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cover the disturbed earth and started digging. It wasn't long before they found the

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first two sacks. Doctor Weissman,
borrowing a knife from newspaper reporter, slit

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the ropes that bound the sack and
revealed the right thigh and groin. The

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second sack contained both legs, still
clad with stockings. They staged them in

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an ambulance. Other officers searched the
interior of the house, hoping to find

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a murder weapon. John had said
he used an axe, but no axe

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was discovered. They found a razor, though, that they thought might have

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been used in the butchery. By
this point, Rule told the cops that

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he believed the sounds that he had
heard coming from the cellar must have been

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digging in. Two neighborhood men,
Leroy Firth and Harvey Curtis, came forward

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to tell police that John had asked
them to help him place the playhouse in

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a strange spot. They went in
the backyard and dug in the henhouse,

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but found nothing. They then considered
the coal filled shed, but doubted that

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all the coal had been moved.
They then looked at the strange location of

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the playhouse, wedged between the other
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Several officers lifted it up and revealed
that the earth had been recently disturbed.

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A foot and a half under the
surface, they discovered a third sack,

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then a fourth, and then a
fifth. Doctor Wiseman again cut the

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rope securing the bags and found first
the left arm and upper left half of

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the body cut down A center line
in the fourth bag was the other thigh,

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and in the fifth was the right
half of the body. According to

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the Portland Press Herald, doctor Weissman
ordered the parts to be taken to Burbie

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Funeral Home, where he assembled the
parts like a ghastly jigsaw puzzle. He

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later told reporters that some of the
internal organs were never found. While the

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search was underway, Thelma and the
two children went to the almshouse, where

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she worked to try and shield Rachel
and Bernard from the gruesome scene. That

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afternoon, doctor Weissman told reporters that
he believed John wouldn't live more than a

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week. He was in critical condition. Police headed to Witham's Wharf and started

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dragging the bottom of the harbor with
grappling hooks, hoping to snag the bag

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that contained Pauline's head. They worked
systematically, pulling up the hook from the

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cold water and plunging it back hundreds
of times. They called the Coastguard from

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Whitehead and they came to help.
There was an urgency to the search.

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The sooner they recovered the bag,
the better the condition would be, and

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the sooner they could examine the head
to determine if John's story of a single

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hammer blow was truthful. Thelma and
the children returned to the house, where

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she had to tell them the horrific
news about their half sister, Pauline.

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Doctor Weissman conducted an autopsy on the
remains the same day, and while he

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was occupied at the funeral home,
police officers kept a twenty four hour watch

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over John. Their concern was threefold, keeping him safe from some vigilante,

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keeping him safe from further self harm, and preventing his albeit unlikely escape.

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The county attorney had been unable to
keep the grand jury any longer, and

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they had dispersed. Indictment would have
to wait until the next time they met

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in February. As the sun rose
on Sunday, Thelma contemplated how much her

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life changed in a single day.
Her daughter was dead, her husband was

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infamous, and the search was still
under way. Reporters grilled Thelma, what

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did she know and when she told
them quote Pauline was accustomed to visiting the

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Wilsons and other families and not returning
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I didn't suspect anything was wrong.
The fishing boat, called the Alfhea

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Jay continued combing the harbor's waters,
but the chief of Police told reporters that

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he had hired a diver from another
town that would be able to do a

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more thorough search. Though he was
in dire health. Police helped John from

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his hospital bed to a police car
and drove him to the wharf. They

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wanted to see exactly where he had
thrown the final bag. Reporters watched as

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he pointed out the spot in the
silent waters before collapsing into tears, and

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just like that, he was whisked
away back to Knox County Hospital and the

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men on the THEA J were left
to their grim task. The next day,

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Monday, November eleventh, doctor Weissman
became more optimistic about John's prognosis,

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and police Chief fish said that John
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soon as his condition permitted. The
next day, John's condition worsened. Doctor

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Weisman explained that infection had set in
where he cut his wrist, and his

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hand was badly swollen. The slow
acting poison exacerbated the situation. If he

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made it through the next day,
he would likely survive, but he was

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on the precipice of life and death. Police did another search of the property

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and discovered the head of an axe
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There was no handle and the steel
was badly damaged by fire. Reporters

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reasoned that the wooden handle had been
burnt out of it. Police suspected it

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was the axe used to dismember Pauline. A southeast storm rolled into the Heart

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and heavy seas put a temporary halt
to the dragging operation. Marian Allen and

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her two boarders had packed up their
things and moved to a nearby vacant home

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on South Main Street in Rockland.
They were too disgusted by what had transpired

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on the other side of the thin
walls of their duplex to live there any

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longer. Pauline's remains were transported to
a tomb in Thomaston, where her burial

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would be. Her biological father,
Lowell Young, had died three years prior,

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and he had been buried in Thomaston
Cemetery, where he was from.

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But it's strange that she would be
returned to her father because in his obituary,

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Pauline wasn't even mentioned as a surviving
daughter. A headstone marked Lowell's grave

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and she would be buried right next
to him On Wednesday in Rockland, Doctor

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Weissman told reporters that John continued to
heal, but would uncontrollably burst into tears.

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Dragging operations continued in the harbor,
and they waited for the contracted diver

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to arrive. Skepticism grew amongst the
searchers and the community as to whether the

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head was actually where John said it
was. On Thursday, the fever had

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finally broken. Doctor Wiseman shared the
news that there was much improvement in John's

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condition, and on Friday, John
was discharged from the hospital. At the

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same moment, an arrest warrant was
issued by local judge Zelma Dwinnell. John

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was taken to the county jail and
booked on a charge of murder. The

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next day, John was brought up
the basement stairs at the court house to

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face Judge Dwinnell. His face was
covered with several days of stubby beard growth,

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and he wore working clothes. When
he spotted the photography apparatus of cameraman,

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he shielded his face with both of
his hands. He'd been assigned an

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attorney, Harry Wilbur, a judge
in the probate court system. John faced

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Judge Dwinnell. As he read the
charge the murder of his stepdaughter, Alzeta

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Pauline Young, John pled not guilty. The judge ordered him held without bail

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for the next three months, when
the grand jury would convene in February for

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the next term of Superior Court.
In better late than never, the diver

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Frank Hansen arrived to search the harbor. Frank got his preparations underway, working

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with Captain John Snow and his boat
called Hugh. He recruited a couple of

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local men to operate the air pump
that would be stationed on the boat,

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and on Sunday he got in the
water and started looking around, connected to

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the surface with an umbilical cord.
By Monday afternoon, though they threw in

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the towel. The Bangor Daily News
stated that the bag might have been carried

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a considerable distance by tidal currents or
even currents generated by the large tankers of

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Standard Oil Company, which operate out
of the company's plant at the Atlantic Wharf

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near the search area. On November
thirtieth, the Rockland Courier Gazette published a

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story that revealed the Thelma and her
two remaining children planned to move to Danforth,

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John's hometown, a tiny town near
Holton, Maine, on the eastern

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border of Canada. By the time
the story appeared, she had already resigned

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from her job at the almshouse.
The reporter pressed her again on her potential

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involvement with Pauline's murder. She insisted, when Pauline went to a neighbor's home

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a week before Halloween, it was
the last time I ever saw her.

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I asked the authorities to help find
her in connection to that previous disappearance,

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and if she could have returned at
that time, this dreadful thing probably never

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would have happened. The night she
did come home, I returned between six

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and seven pm, and John told
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On the following Monday, December second, nineteen forty, Thelma left Rockland,

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never to live there again. She
had divorced John and would remarry again

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in nineteen forty two to Frederick Mailman. After holding her remains for a month,

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Pauline's body was buried in Thomaston on
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A reverend at the local Federated Church
officiated the ceremony. Her mother was

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not present, but two of her
uncles were there. Her body had only

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been resting for forty days when Maine's
Attorney General, Frank Cohen, ordered the

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Medical Examiner's office to perform a second
autopsy. On January twenty third, her

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remains were disinterred and another examination was
done at the local funeral home. All

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of the key players from Rockland and
Knox County law enforcement were there to attend,

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including doctor Wiseman, who performed the
initial autopsy. Her remains were immediately

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reburied. Officials were tight lipped with
a press about what they hoped to determine.

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John's trial was imminent. There must
have been some concern about John's defense

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succeeding because the Knox County District Attorney
wanted to see a change in the law.

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State legislator representative from Rockland, Cleveland
Sleeper, told reporters that he was

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drafting a bill that would make it
an automatic charge of murder against anyone who

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dismembered or disposed of a human body. On February ninth, Portland Press published

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an article hyping up the trial.
John was reported to be well behaved in

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jail. On Tuesday, the first
session of nineteen forty one of Knox County

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Superior Court began. They had a
new judge, Raymond Fellows, and he

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had a cheeky sense of humor.
He said to the esteemed gathering, I

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know I shall enjoy the term,
and with a twinkle in his eye,

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he said, time will tell whether
or not you do. That same day,

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the grand jury convened and handed up
three indictments against John, the murder

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charge obviously, but also dismemberment of
a body and abandonment of a body.

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Two weeks later, John appeared before
Judge Fellows for his second arraignment. Was

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escorted through the courtroom by Sheriff Earl
Ludwick and another deputy. The courtroom was

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filled to overflowing. John wore blue
jeans, a blue shirt, and horn

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rimmed glasses. As part of the
typical questions of identification, John began to

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sob when requested to give the name
of his ex wife, Thelma Phelps,

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who was in fact present at the
time in another building next to the courthouse.

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John, officials said, had refused
to see her or their two children,

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Rachel and Bernard, who had come
from Danforth to support him. Judge

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Fellows read the charges against him and
asked how he pled, and, to

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the surprise of everyone present, John
replied, guilty, your honor. The

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judge asked if John wanted to make
any statements before being sentenced. John just

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sobbed convulsively and said that he never
intended to kill his stepdaughter, saying that

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kid came at me with a knife. I didn't mean to hit her.

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He then sobbed so loudly that reporters
couldn't understand the rest of his speech.

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The prosecutor motioned for sentence to be
immediately imposed, and Judge Fellows obliged.

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He imposed a sentence of hard labor
at the main state prison in Thomaston for

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the rest of John's life. The
entire proceeding only took five minutes, and

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then John was returned to the county
jail to await transportation to Thomaston. That

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afternoon, Earl and his deputy took
him to prison. With him was a

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box of candy in some small packages
that had been sent to him by his

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sister in Connecticut. A smug editorial
appeared in the Rockland Courier Tribune three days

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later in their Sunday edition. It
read, the County of Knox. The

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men and women who pay the taxes, and the citizens at large are to

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be congratulated upon the capable manner in
which the Phelps murder case was handled by

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the city and county authority, in
the speedy manner in which it was disposed

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of by the Superior Court. A
protracted trial would have drawn countrywide attention to

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the shocking case for which nobody was
responsible except an enraged man upon whom remorse

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fell quickly, and which would have
placed a heavy burden of expense upon the

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county with nothing to gain by further
publicity. Phelps did the right thing in

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pleading guilty, and the stordid story
has become a closed book. John had

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been in jail and Thomaston for twenty
three years when in nineteen sixty three he

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petitioned Maine's governor and the Executive Council
for a pardon. He said that he

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was seventy three years old, in
poor health, and had spent much of

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the last fifteen years in the prison
hospital. He said he felt sufficiently punished,

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fully rehabilitated, and wished to spend
quote his last few days with his

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family. On February sixth, the
attorney representing him, went to the hearing

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and lamed that John had an acute
bronchial disease in what he termed rheumatism,

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which likely referred to rheumatoid arthritis.
He said that John's only prayer was to

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quote return home and try to live
like a decent citizen. He told the

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council that John had been a model
prisoner and that his daughter was willing to

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give him a home. A few
weeks later, the council responded, rejecting

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the petition, but he tried again
the following year in nineteen sixty four,

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and the council relented. John was
paroled officially on March seventeenth, nineteen sixty

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four, and taken in by his
daughter, Rachel Rainey Phelps. It was

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just eleven when he went to prison, according to prison records. He was

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reparoled a year later on March sixth, nineteen sixty five, which suggested that

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he had somehow violated his parole conditions, and was reincarcerated three years later.

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On August twenty eighth, nineteen sixty
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eighty one in East Hartford, Connecticut, near where Rachel lived, and he

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was buried in somers Connecticut in West
Cemetery. Pauline's head stone in Thomaston,

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which was installed right next to her
father's, no longer stands today. According

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to a comment on find a Grave, her stone was destroyed and removed.

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Pauline's life was likely a difficult one. Her mother got married at just fifteen

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years old to twenty six year old
Lowell Young, and Pauline was her mother's

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second child. At just seventeen,
when she was a toddler, her parents

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got divorced, and it's unclear whether
she ever even knew her father, judging

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by the omission of her name in
his obituary, likely not. Her mother

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remarried when she was just four years
old to John Phelps, a man with

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two previous marriages and seven biological children, none of whom lived with him.

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One of his sons had reportedly disowned
him. Pauline was forced to drop out

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of school in the fifth grade to
stay home and help with housework while her

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mother worked. She was only ten
years old. Her biological father, if

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she ever knew him, died in
nineteen thirty seven when she was just thirteen.

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Pauline, by her early teens was
doing everything she could to stay away

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from home and from her stepfather John, and by sixteen she was killed in

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either a tragic accident or a homicidal
rage. A strange coincidence was noticed by

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Rockland residents and reported on by the
Bangor Daily News. There was a classified

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ad that appeared in the Rockland Courier
Gazette for a girl's bicycle right around the

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time of Pauline's death. Upon closer
inspection, we discovered that the ad was

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run on four dates over the period
of a week. The first one was

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on the night of Halloween, the
same date that John killed Pauline, we

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believe. At the time the Courier
Tribune was printed in the afternoon and distributed

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in the evening. The classified ad
read girl's standard sized bicycle for sale almost

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new good trade if taken at once. If then listed the Phelps address and

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presumably a phone number. The cost
for classified ads was twenty five cents for

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a single print, in fifty cents
for three for to have appeared in the

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Halloween evening paper. The ad must
have been submitted no later than that morning,

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perhaps by noon at the latest,
which was five hours before Pauline's death.

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Is it a coincidence, or was
John planning to get rid of any

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trace of Pauline, including her bike. This story became a legend in the

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Rockland community. People comment on it
even today on blog posts about the murder.

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They always thought it was a myth
and were stunned to learn that it's

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true. The house became known as
a haunted house. Kids were fearful of

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going near it. There was speculation
of what happened to Pauline's head. Perhaps

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it was not discarded in the bay. Some people hated Halloween from that night

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on One long time Rockland resident road
My mom lived nearby on Thomaston Street when

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this happened. She was about eight
years old, and she said to me

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she believed he threw her head in
the quarry behind the church. He passed

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by my mom and her younger sister
carrying a bag that resembled a human head.

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Another woman wrote, my father told
me that his mother saw John walking

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down Thomaston Street with a burlap bag. She asked him what he was doing,

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and he said he was going to
drown kittens in the quarry. That

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same woman said, I actually lived
in that building when I was about seventeen.

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I hated being home alone. I
always got an eerie feeling about the

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place. In a Rockland history book
covering the nineteen forties, which was published

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in nineteen ninety one, one of
the authors, Theodore Sylvester, wrote,

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in a chapter titled Youthful Recollections,
the impression that the tragedy left on him.

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I grew up playing on the streets
of the neighborhood. There was a

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lot of speculation and stories going around. The one that impressed us most was

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at the Phelps home was forever haunted
and that the head was buried under the

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porch. It was literally years before
any of us would walk past the house

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day or night. Sometimes we would
race past the house on our bicycles,

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but that was the extent of our
courage. If you take a trip to

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Rockland today, it's beautiful, the
harbors filled with sailboats and lobster boats.

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The streets are lined with beautiful brick
buildings. But underneath the surface is a

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dark chapter and a haunting mystery that
still lingers today. I want to thank

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you so much for listening. I
am so grateful that you chose to tune

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in, and I couldn't be here
without you. Thank you. If you

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would like to support the show,
there's a link in the show notes with

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options. Another way to support is
telling a friend, sharing on social media,

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or leaving a review. A detailed
list of sources and photos can be

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found at Murdershotel dot com. Thank
you to Byron Willis for his writing and

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research. Additional thanks to Michelle Soulier
for her research support. If you have

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a story that needs to be told
or a correction, I would love to

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hear from you. My only hope
is that I've kept the memories of your

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loved ones alive. I'm Kristin Sevie, and this is murder she told.

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Thank you for listening.