Sept. 3, 2024
S11, Chapter 12: The Ash Trap
...ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
...we therefore commit this body to the ground, earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
— A phrase for burial in the Book of Common Prayer.
Ashes to ashes, funk to funky, we know Major Tom's a junkie. Strung out in heaven's high and hitting an all-time low.
— David Bowie
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What effect does fire have on the human body.
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It can change it dramatically heat.
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When heat is applied to a body, heat will generally
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cause the skin to tighten and shrink, Wrinkles around the
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corners of the eyes, in the corner of the mouth
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began to smooth out somewhat. Those changes eventually will get
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down to the destruction of the skin, the fat, the
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muscle tissue, and can ultimately, if the fire is allowed
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to continue to burn, down to the destruction of the
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bone tissue as well.
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Tapes from the Dark Side contains descriptions of violence and sexuality.
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Listener discretion is advised.
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July first had been a long, long night for Chandler,
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perhaps the longest night of his life, and the day
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ahead wouldn't necessarily be any easier. He had already made
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plans to hang out with Kat, his girlfriend, He had
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mounting pressure from his friends, family, and Krista and Bart's
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coworkers to explain where they had gone, and most importantly,
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he had two disembodied torsos to deal with. Chandler would
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also be facing these challenges on no sleep, having just experienced,
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though admittedly self inflicted, one of the most traumatic things
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a person could possibly ever experience murdering, chopping up, and
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then burning the decapitated heads of your own parents. The
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toll that such a thing would take on the psyche
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cannot be overstated. The so called family room that housed
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the wood burning fireplace in the Alderson home was covered
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in blood, and the inside of that fireplace was filled
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with ash. One thing we didn't mention in the previous
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episode is that it was also almost surely covered in
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Chandler's sweat. One thing we touched on at the very
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end of chapter nine, which is now a couple of
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chapters back, is that the Holderson house had no central
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air conditioning. They did have one unit in the kitchen.
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I'm not sure if it was a window unit or
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a mini split, but Catherine actually talked about this in
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her interview with police.
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Yeah, and they don't really have like central air. They
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have a one air conditioner in the kitchen. So their
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house is pretty hot. They got some like new fans
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that go into their windows.
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Those run a lot, Yeah, commons in the house on Yeah,
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it's very common because Ms Holderson she would just open windows.
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She didn't really want the one going, especially if it
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was going to be cool. In the night, she preferred
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just opening all the windows and turning the fans on.
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Right now, the outside temperature that night in Madison, Wisconsin
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briefly reached a low of fifty four degrees fahrenheit twelve
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degrees celsius for our international listeners, so not exactly scorching.
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But when you're shut inside with only the help of
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fans to try to cool down a raging fire, it
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gets hot quick. In fact, we think that the fans
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were partly to blame for adding so much oxygen to
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the fire that it was able to burn so much
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of Chandler's parents' bodies, and also for the flare up
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that led to Chandler throwing the water on the fire
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that led to the pane of glass instantly shattering, which
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we know now led to his foot being cut and
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him bleeding all over the place. As we covered in
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the previous episode, around four forty five am on July second,
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the sun began to rise, and buy five am, the
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picture on the security footage was too bright to tell
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if there was a fire burning anymore in the Halderson
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family room. Were able to pick up the timeline on
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that same morning. Just a few hours later, at seven
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oh seven am when Chandler enters a store called Fleet
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Farm in Madison, Wisconsin. Fleet Farm was only about an
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eight minute drive from the Halderson house, less than four
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miles depending on the route you took. And it's a
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kind of hardware store that's common throughout the Midwest, basically
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a Low's or a home depot. Chandler was there for
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a specific purpose. He was there to buy a polyester tarp.
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This tarp just so happened to fit the exact description
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of the one that turned up on Cress's farm wrapped
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around pieces of Bart Holderson's dismembered body.
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And how are you employed, sir, that was previously employed
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with Fleet Farm?
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In what role Lost Prevention Team lead? Did you sometimes
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have the opportunity to work with the police and as
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they were investigating things?
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Yes, very frequently, And at some.
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Point where you asked to provide police some surveillance footage
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from inside the Fleet Farm and maybe even a little
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bit outside, but mostly inside. On July second, in kind
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of early in the morning, around seven to twenty or so, Yes,
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it was We're going to play clip five to one,
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what are we looking at? And clip five to one?
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This is our last isle in the hardware department. It's
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right next to the farm department where we keep tarps
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and some outdoor gear.
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Okay, we'll play clip fifty six. What are we looking
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at there?
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This is again up at the front entrance, and that
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would be lane one. Is the closest checkout laying there?
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And do you recognize that item that the person in
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that video is purchasing? Yes?
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I do?
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And what is that?
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That's a black and silver tarp.
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In the security footage that has played for the court,
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you can see Chandler, or at least is Doppelganger, standing
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at the checkout line in Fleet Farm, wearing a baseball cap,
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his eyes focused on the card reader as he enters
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a card into the electronic chip reader and completes his purchase.
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The fact that Chandler uses a credit card instead of cash,
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and makes no attempt to find a store that doesn't
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have cameras, and also makes no attempt to disguise his
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appearance on the surface, seems like yet another careless mistake
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on the laundry list of Chandler's incompetence. Yet I started
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to think to myself, what would I do if I
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didn't have cash on hand, and I wanted to avoid
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using a credit card. Well, I guess first I'd check
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around the house and see if I could find some change.
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And if I couldn't, well, I guess I go to
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the ATM. Except oh wait, that's right, there's cameras at
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the AATM. And not only that, you have to use
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your bank card. I'm not going to keep going down
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this rabbit hole, but I wanted to quickly make the
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point that in this digital age, it's a challenge to
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simply obtain paper money without leaving a record, let alone
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murdering two people. Chandler made many, many silly mistakes. But
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let's say this was the eighties or even the nineties
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or two thousands, before doorbell cameras were everywhere, and before
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cash was an afterthought. I think that the probability of
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Chandler possibly getting away with this crime in that era
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is at least a potentiality. Now, I'm not saying that
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it would have been likely, but the odds would have
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certainly gone up. Not to belabor what is essentially a
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trivial part of this case, but I want to play
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for you the defense's cross examination of this witness, not
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for any particular reason other than because it was one
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of only a handful of times that the defense chose
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to cross examine any of the witnesses. This clip is
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less than a minute long. In fact, it's only a
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few seconds long, and the kind of questions that Chandler's
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defense counsel asks here are I think an accurate representation
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of the kinds of questions that are asked during the
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few other cross examinations that take place.
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Thank you, so good luck in yours for your new
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role at the impost examination.
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Thank you now, sir.
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As part of your investigation into this you were asked
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to see if that card had been used for any
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previous transactions.
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Correct.
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Correct, and you were only able to locate one previous transaction.
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Correct, that's correct, and that was.
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From back in September of twenty twenty correct.
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Correct, that's all.
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Thank you, any redirect, and just to note for the record,
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the video clips were played in their entirety.
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Shortly after this purchase, Chandler returned to his home, and
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while he had successfully managed to dispose of a decent
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percentage of his parents' bodies, curiously, or perhaps not so curiously,
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now that we know, Chandler mo He made almost no
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further attempt to cover up what he had done. In
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the family room. He left a measuring tape there, which
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it's not too hard to figure out why that was there,
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even left a piece of bone sitting right on top
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of a piece of wood. In the fireplace. As you
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heard in the last episode, he gave a half hearted
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attempt to clean one of the glass panes, but even
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now was done with very little effort, And Chandler made
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no attempt to clean what would be perhaps the most
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important location where the majority of the evidence was collected,
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and that was the ash trap. An ash trap, as
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it's also known an ash catcher or an ash dump,
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is pretty much exactly what it sounds like, a little
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cavity underneath your house, sometimes built into the foundation, that
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holds the ash from a fireplace. The ash will fall
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down through some kind of opening in the floor of
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that fireplace, usually a little cast iron flap that you
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can open and close. When investigators went into the basement
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of the Halderson house to check the ash trap, they
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made a number of horrific findings.
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William Boswell, I'm a special agent with the State of
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Wisconsin Department of Justice.
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Any particular area of expertise I'm assigned to the Arson Bureau.
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What effect does fire have on the human body?
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It can change it dramatically heat.
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When heat is applied to a body, heat will generally
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cause the skin to tighten and shrink, Wrinkles around the
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corners of the eyes, in the corner of the mouth
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began to smooth out somewhat with just.
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The application of heat.
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But as the body continues to heat within a compartment
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or a bedroom, or wherever it might be, those changes
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eventually will get down to the destruction of the skin,
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the fat, the muscle tissue, and can ultimately, if the
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fire is allowed to continue to burn, down to the
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destruction of the bone tissue as well.
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And as part of that experience, if you unfortunately had
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to see the human body in various states of being
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burned on different occasions, Yes, sir, sometimes partially and sometimes
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more completely.
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That's correct.
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Talk to us generally about fire. What temperature does fire
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generally burn at?
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What any kind of smuff most any fire that you
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experience generally does not burn beyond about the.
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Temperature of around eighteen hundred degrees Is that sufficient to
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incinerate completely the human body into ash.
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It generally would not tell me about that. Generally you
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end up needing some additional if I can use word
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assistance to result in the destruction of human tissue, even
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devices that are designed in crematoriums to completely destroy a
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body often will leave various small fragments of bone, not
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very often tissue, but small fragments of bone that are
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left over after that cremation event. So short of adding
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additional oxygen or maybe changing the fuel oxygen ratio and
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how the fire burns, it's very, very difficult to get
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a complete consumption of human body just from the fire.
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When you say insert oxygen, what a small household fan,
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I suppose there's one sitting right there. Something of that
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size be enough to do what you just mentioned in
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terms of inserting oxygen. If that were applied to perhaps
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just a residential fire, it.
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Would certainly help.
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I mean, if by example, you know, if you're lighting
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a small campfire or something of that nature, or lighting
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a fire at your own fireplace, you may often blow
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on that or wave or you use a set of
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bellows or maybe wave your hand to add and move
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additional air or oxygen across the surface of that fire.
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To increase the effectiveness of that fire.
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Sure in crime scenes you've responded to and in your
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training and experience, where the human body has been burned,
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are are there usually some remains left that you're able
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to identify or find. Generally yes, And in perhaps the
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more extreme of those, it's what are those remains? What's
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usually left?
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You'll find very small pieces of bone fragment, the more
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thick or dense pieces of the human skeleton, perhaps kneecaps,
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the ball joints of hips and shoulders, where the bone
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is more densely compacted because of just its development. Teeth
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will oftentimes remain thicker portions maybe around the orbits of
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the eye, maybe portions of the base of the skull.
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